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Aga Khan IV The 49th imam of Nizari Isma'ilism, Aga Khan IV (pictured), dies at the age of 88 and is succeeded by his son, Aga Khan V. Eleven people are killed in a mass shooting at an adult education centre in Örebro, Sweden. At the Grammy Awards, "Not Like Us" by Kendrick Lamar wins Record of the Year and Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter wins Album of the Year. A Learjet 55 crashes into multiple buildings in Philadelphia, United States, killing at least 7 people and injuring 24 others. Ongoing: Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Harry Stewart Jr. Dafydd Elis-Thomas Virginia Halas McCaskey Sally J. Novetzke Helga de Alvear İlhan Usmanbaş view — page history — related changes — edit

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February 9

Portal:Current events/2025 February 9
February 9, 2025 (2025-02-09) (Sunday)

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Super Bowl LIX

Article: Super Bowl LIX (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In American football, the ( Kansas City Chiefs or Philadelphia Eagles ) defeat the (other team) to win the Super Bowl. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Ahuman00 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Per WP:ITN/R and examples of these articles being found in previous ITNs. I understand this ITN may be postponed until after the completion of the game. Ahuman00 (talk) 06:27, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Reluctant support since I don't believe the American Hand-Egg Championships should be ITN/R, but, until such time as that's corrected, they are This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Wait then support. We will wait for the results and support as an ITN/R. Moraljaya67 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:39, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

• Procedural close notability isn't in doubt because it's ITN/R. It's not in a fit state to post until it says who wins and has a match summary, which won't be for over 16 hours. Therefore any debate is moot. We may as well start a nomination for the 2028 presidential election as that is on ITN/R. Unknown Temptation (talk) 10:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

February 8

Portal:Current events/2025 February 8

February 8, 2025 (2025-02-08) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war 2025 Gaza war ceasefire, Gaza war hostage crisis Three more Israeli hostages are freed by Hamas as part of the January 19 ceasefire deal. (Saudi Gazette) Syrian civil war Hezbollah–Syria clashes Four people are killed in border clashes between Syrian Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham and Lebanese clans. (Al-Monitor) Disasters and accidents At least 41 people are killed when a bus collides with a semi-trailer truck in Escárcega, Campeche, Mexico. (Noticieros Televisa) (Reuters) An earthquake with a magnitude of 7.6 strikes the Caribbean Sea southwest of the Cayman Islands. (CNN) International relations Baltic states synchronization with UCTE Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania disconnect from the IPS/UPS synchronous transmission grid in order to synchronize with the Continental Europe grid. (BBC News) United States and the International Criminal Court, Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump International Criminal Court Prosecutor Karim Ahmad Khan becomes the first person to have economic and travel sanctions placed on him by the U.S. government following an executive order signed by U.S. President Donald Trump intended to target the war crimes tribunal over investigations of U.S. citizens or allies. (The Times of Israel) Law and crime One person is injured when a man fires shots at random people at the Setia City Mall in Setia Alam, Selangor, Malaysia. (The Straits Times) Politics and elections A new government is formed in Lebanon, with former International Court of Justice president Nawaf Salam as the new prime minister, following two years of the country under a caretaker government. (AP)

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RD: Sam Nujoma

Article: Sam Nujoma (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First President of Namibia Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:07, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Ne Zha 2 breaks box office records

Article: Ne Zha 2 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Chinese animated film Ne Zha 2 becomes the highest grossing film of all time in China and the highest grossing non-English language film of all time, grossing over $1 billion at the box office in just 12 days. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by The Image Editor (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Pretty historic box office accomplishments here, biggest non-English language film of all time and first to ever make $1B; article is in fairly poor shape however The Image Editor (talk) 04:11, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Support The article is in OK shape (maybe needs a bit more details about the plot), the fact itself is pretty interesting.Trepang2 (talk) 05:22, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose: Box office (if not #1 in world) doesn't matter. Chinese films grossing higher and higher should be taken as a common event now. If there is something really special about it other than this, let us know. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 06:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Lean oppose Breaking news: there's a lot of people in China. More at eleven. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:19, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

2025 Tabasco bus crash

Article: 2025 Escárcega bus crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A bus crash kills 41 people in Escárcega, Mexico. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ExclusiveEditor (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 02:28, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. A bus crashed. This is not a significant event that merits coverage in an encyclopedia. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:03, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose for now, as the article is a stub. If the article is improved, maybe I will change my vote to support, as we posted the 2024 Minas Gerais road crash in 2024. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 03:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

I have some experience in searching sources and improving articles. Going to sleep and back to work… 💤 ArionStar (talk) 03:37, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. A 25-word stub. (And Escárcega is in Campeche, not Tabasco.) Moscow Mule (talk) 04:27, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

It says near Escárcega. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 05:27, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

The infobox says "near Escárcega, Tabasco". Fwiw, neither of the references say it occurred in Tabasco. Moscow Mule (talk) 05:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose a near-literal bus plunge This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:25, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

• Note: I have expanded the article since, from the one line it was before. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability. 41 deaths from a weird accident where identification of bodies has become difficult due to burns, a mystery why truck driver invaded the lane, international coverage, and importantly an improved article. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 10:19, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
• Note: I have moved page 2025 Tabasco bus crash to 2025 Escárcega bus crash: Based on all the sources, it appears it happened in the outskirts of this city 'Escárcega' and Tobsco government is just taking active initiative in helping and providing information. Also changed the blurb and target article accordingly. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 10:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Dick Jauron

Article: Dick Jauron (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Kline (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former NFL head coach for the Bears and Bills. Kline • talk • contribs 18:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Ready) Ongoing: M23 campaign (2022–present)

Article: M23 campaign (2022–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Article updated

Nominator's comments: it’s an ongoing conflict with escalation and many wiki editors have been consistently editing and updating the article Wafflefrites (talk) 22:23, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Article is of good quality and is definitely being updated regularly. I think at this point it’s pretty notable with the UN’s involvement and the M23’s advancements, so I won’t have a problem promoting this to ongoing ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 00:15, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Support as per above. There is escalation with daily updates, and the article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support per above. Major ongoing conflict. Wonder about a name change to something like "War in Kivu" or something, but that's mostly an aside This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk)
  • Support, I think it should also be renamed but that's best left for the article's talk page. 675930s (talk) 02:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

February 7

Portal:Current events/2025 February 7

February 7, 2025 (2025-02-07) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Kivu conflict M23 campaign 2025 Goma offensive The United Nations and the Democratic Republic of the Congo communications minister Patrick Muyaya recognize that most of the 165 female prisoners of the Goma prison in North Kivu who were raped by escaping male inmates a week ago died in the ensuing fire. (CNN) (The Guardian) Russian invasion of Ukraine Battle of Toretsk Russia says its forces have taken full control of Toretsk, Donetsk Oblast, after months of urban warfare. (Reuters) Somali Civil War The Somali National Army, supported by local Ma'awisley clan militias, kills dozens of al-Shabaab insurgents during heavy clashes which erupted after allied forces launch an offensive targeting al-Shabaab stronghold positions in the Jicibow area of Shebelle River, Hiiraan, Somalia. (Hiiraan Online) Disasters and accidents Bering Air Flight 445 The wreckage of the Bering Air Cessna 208B Grand Caravan that went missing while flying over the Norton Sound in Alaska yesterday is found crashed 34 miles (55 km) from Nome with no survivors. (VOA) (ABC News Australia) A Beechcraft King Air F90 crashes in Barra Funda, São Paulo, Brazil, killing the two people on board and wounding six on the ground. (CNN) Two tourists die in Colombo, Sri Lanka, when their hostel room is fumigated with a pesticide for bedbugs. (CNN) Health and environment 2020–2025 H5N1 outbreak Officials in New York City, United States, order the closure of all live poultry markets in the city as well as in the surrounding suburban counties of Westchester, Suffolk, and Nassau due to an increase in cases of avian influenza. (DW) The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that influenza in the United States is at its highest peak since the 2009 swine flu pandemic. (CBS News) International relations South Africa–United States relations, Racism in South Africa U.S. President Donald Trump orders a freeze on all foreign aid to South Africa citing a South African law that allegedly allows land to be forcibly seized from white farmers. Trump also calls for the U.S. to accept Afrikaner refugees to protect them from "government-sponsored race-based discrimination". (NDTV) Law and crime A fourth shooting takes place in Brussels, Belgium, within a few days, and is related to two of the other three shootings. As a result, the six separate police zones in Brussels will start working under one command. (VRT) (NOS) Seventy-nine countries jointly speak out in a statement against the sanctions imposed by U.S. President Donald Trump on the International Criminal Court officials. (NOS) German Federal Police detains 16 Indian nationals found in a van in Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, including 15 passengers and the driver, as they attempt to enter the country without valid documents. (DW) Three people, including the perpetrator, are killed and three others are injured in a mass shooting familicide when a military police officer opens fire at a house in Prey Ampok Commune, Cambodia. (Khmer Times) Politics and elections Second presidency of Donald Trump Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump United States federal judge of the D.C. District Court Carl J. Nichols temporarily blocks President Donald Trump's executive order to place over 2,200 USAID employees on paid leave. (AP) Science and technology Restrictions on TikTok in the United States U.S. Vice President JD Vance and National Security Advisor Michael Waltz are announced to be in charge of a potential TikTok sale. (The Hill)

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RD: Tony Roberts (actor)

Article: Tony Roberts (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News: Stage and film actor Tony Roberts, who often starred in Woody Allen movies, dies at 85
Credits:

• Nominated by Jaguarnik (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Jaguarnik (talk) 10:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - the vast majority of the "Life and career" section, as well as the entire filmography, is unsourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:59, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dafydd Elis-Thomas

Article: Dafydd Elis-Thomas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Duke of New Gwynedd (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Welsh politician, life peer, former MP and leader of Plaid Cymru. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 21:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Support - one CN but that shouldn't completely stop this nom. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 23:57, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Support. There's more to be said (18 yrs at Westminster, propping up Callaghan in the Winter of Discontent and VoC, 1979 referendum...), but it's unobjectionable for RD as it stands. Llywydd Senedd Cymru, indeed. Moscow Mule (talk) 01:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Support The article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:28, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted charlotte ^👸♥ 07:43, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

February 6

Portal:Current events/2025 February 6

February 6, 2025 (2025-02-06) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war 2025 Gaza war ceasefire United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Thomas Fletcher reports that over 10,000 aid trucks have arrived in the Gaza Strip since the ceasefire took effect on January 19. (Arab News) Italian foreign minister Antonio Tajani announces that Italy will stop working with UNRWA after the mother of a freed hostage said that her daughter had been held at a UNRWA facility in Gaza. (The Times of Israel) Kivu conflict M23 campaign Malawian President Lazarus Chakwera orders Malawian troops to withdraw from peacekeeping operations in the Democratic Republic of the Congo as the crisis escalates. Three Malawian soldiers have been killed in recent fighting in North Kivu. (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Three people are killed in a Russian guided bomb attack that destroyed a residential building in Myropillia, Sumy Oblast, Ukraine, according to Ukrainian officials. (Reuters) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War The Ukrainian Air Force receives the first shipment of Mirage 2000 fighter jets from France and more F-16 Fighting Falcons from the Netherlands. (DW) Islamist insurgency in the Sahel Ten Nigerien soldiers are killed in an ambush by Islamic State fighters near the border with Burkina Faso. (AP) Disasters and accidents Bering Air Flight 445 A Cessna 208B Grand Caravan carrying ten people goes missing on a flight from Unalakleet, Alaska, United States, to Nome. A search and rescue operation is underway. (KTUU-TV) Four people are killed after a U.S. military-contracted Beechcraft Super King Air 300 surveillance aircraft crashes in a paddy field in Ampatuan, Maguindanao del Sur, Philippines. (AP) (ABC News Australia) International relations Moldova–European Union relations 2025 Moldovan energy crisis Moldova Prime Minister Dorin Recean calls for the breakaway state of Transnistria to take steps to avoid a new gas crisis. (Reuters) Azerbaijan–Russia relations Azerbaijan authorities announce that they will close their local Rossotrudnichestvo (House of Russia) branch in Baku. (Trend) United States and the International Criminal Court, Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump U.S. President Donald Trump signs an executive order imposing sanctions on International Criminal Court officials that assist investigations into U.S. citizens or those of its allies, namely Israel. (Reuters) (NBC News) (AP) United States–Venezuela relations In an operation led by U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the U.S. formally seizes a Venezuelan government airplane in the Dominican Republic. (CNN) Politics and elections 2025 Greek presidential election In the third round of voting, the Hellenic Parliament fails to elect the new President of Greece. A fourth and final round is called for February 12. (To Vima) Science and technology NASA's Center for Near-Earth Object Studies says that the probability of asteroid 2024 YR4 impacting Earth on 22 December 2032 has increased to 2.3%, or a (1-in-43) chance, following further observations of its trajectory. More observations are planned in the coming months to gather data on the asteroid before it moves too far away from Earth-based telescopes to be accurately observed. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Virginia Halas McCaskey

Article: Virginia Halas McCaskey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 207.172.32.211 (talk · give credit), BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit) and Hey man im josh (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Owner of the Chicago Bears, 102. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:06, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is well cited and is long enough for ITNRD recognition. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 21:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good. Da bears! --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Looks good ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• @BeanieFan11: I've done a lot of work on the refs and have also added some sourcing for a number of spots that I felt the references didn't verify. I don't want to boldly add myself for credits, and would understand if you wanted to object, but I'd appreciate if you were willing to add me as an updater. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
  • Added. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:43, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

    You're the best :) Hey man im josh (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted charlotte ^👸♥ 07:44, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Irv Gotti

Article: Irv Gotti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter (reliable), WBLS
Credits:

• Nominated by Imconfused3456 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Imconfused3456 02:40, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Improvement needed: It is currently orange tagged, and citations for discography section could be picked from the main article. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:40, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Bering Air Flight 445

Article: Disappearance of Bering Air Flight 445 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Cessna 208 Caravan (similar aircraft pictured) carrying ten people disappears over the Norton Sound, off the coast of Alaska in the United States. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Since small plane flights are acceptable here. ArionStar (talk) 12:21, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose No one died and this isn’t particularly notable Personisinsterest (talk) 13:06, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

You don't know that though. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 13:18, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Aircraft disappearances aren't particularly common and this plane had 10 people on it. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 13:16, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait It's only been missing for a matter of hours, and it would probably have been found already if it went down on land. Estreyeria (talk) 13:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait - Give them time to look for the plane... Also there are some quality issues with the article. It says the plane disappeared at 3:16pm AKST on February 7th, but it is currently 4:23am AKST on February 7th...? ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:26, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  I've updated the article per sources. FYI this accident took place on February 6, 2025 - not February 7th as the article incorrectly stated before. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:30, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose opening the floodgates to every minor plane crash/incident being posted to ITNR. Not every incident has encyclopedic relevance. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:41, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - I'm inclined to wait for news in this story; but the nominator's comment seems a little bit pointed. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:23, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait one more day, then support I think the nominator is trying to make a point, but I am undeterred. The fact remains that American plane crashes in general are exceedingly rare, attract immense social interest, and have long-standing impacts on both the aviation industry and the community where the crash is located (in this case, most lethal crash in Alaska of a generation). Put that all together with this being an aircraft disappearance (not just a crash on landing for example), and that makes this notable. The fact that a few of them have coincidentally happened back to back doesn't really negate this fact. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:18, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  Aviation accidents are subject of extensive discussion here, including small plane flights (some ones occasionally posted)… it's part of the ITN process… ArionStar (talk) 16:26, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Comment We're not even two months in and this is already a very bad year for aviation. Depending on what happens next I might give my support. Departure– (talk) 16:30, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Another small aircraft just crashed in São Paulo today, and killed two people. ArionStar (talk) 16:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Looking at 2024, there seems to be an aviation accident or incident every week, on average. WP:NEWSEVENT applies. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:44, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Support as per Chorchapu. 64.114 etc 18:59, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose We generally do not post private/non-airline crashes or disappearances unless there is far more to the nature of the story. Unlike commercial airline crashes which get heavily investigated by national air safety boards, private ones rarely do, so there's no indication this will have a long tail of coverage. --Masem (t) 19:31, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Masem It actually was a commercial flight operated by Bering Air, but agree otherwise; it's a comparatively minor accident on a flight operated by a small intrastate (not even regional) carrier. It doesn't seem too far off from Thai Flying Service Flight 209, which is currently at AfD and wasn't even nominated when it happened, let alone posted. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  Other incidents of similar scale/(lack of greater) notability that weren't nominated/posted include 2023 Rio Branco Cessna Grand Caravan crash, 2023 Manaus Aerotáxi Embraer Bandeirante crash, 2022 Mutiny Bay DHC-3 Otter crash, and Siberian Light Aviation Flight 51. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  While I do agree that by itself a plane crash wouldn't be important enough to put on ITN, this is a aircraft disappearance, which doesn't happen nearly as often. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 20:08, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Small aircraft crashes are quite common in Alaska (because of frequent bad weather and because it is often the only way to travel). Curbon7 (talk) 21:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  How common? Show us some stats. DrewieStewie (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  These two articles are a bit outdated (dating 2019 and 2008) but get the idea across. Curbon7 (talk) 09:38, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support disappearances with 10+ passengers with no concrete answers on its fate after 24 hours are highly unusual in aviation. I’m immediately reminded of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. DrewieStewie (talk) 22:41, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - not every plane crash needs ITN. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 23:08, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support per Chorchapu, + can't remember the last time I heard a plane went missing. I do understand that it most likely crashed, but it may have survivors. TheHiddenCity (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Update — The US Coast Guard has located the wreckage, 3 fatalities confirmed so far. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 00:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose There is nothing inherent about fatal aircraft incidents that make them historical events worthy of mention in an encyclopedia, let alone on the main page. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:27, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose on notability. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:42, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. Not notable. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:47, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose due to the timing of the nomination and its phrasing – The article was nominated for ITN when the aircraft had disappeared off radar and when search and rescues were still being conducted. This should have been nominated after more information was known, at least waiting one or two more days before doing so. Now that the aircraft's wreckage has been found, a renomination or amendment to the nomination can be made, because, as it stands, the nomination is clearly outdated. As to whether I would support it, I'm still unsure. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Support 10+ deaths, no concrete reason for why the plane went down. Scuba 18:47, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

If this was postable any how, would we not have posted it if the reason was known? 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 21:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

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2025 Southeast Europe retail boycotts

Article: 2025 Southeast Europe retail boycotts (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of boycotts (flyer pictured) against retail stores begin in Croatia, Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, North Macedonia and Albania. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A series of boycotts (flyer pictured) against retail stores expands to several countries in Southeast Europe.
News source(s): IntelliNews; The Straits Times; DW; Euronews; Baklan Insight
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Created by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 04:09, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support Article is of sufficient notability and quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per the above. 64.114 etc 04:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - No one cares about a bunch of people boycotting some small supermarket retail in the Balkans. Nestle has had an active boycott of over 40 years yet we dont cover it ever. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 04:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Even if the supermarket retail is small, a boycott where 89.5% of a country is participating is still notable. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait, leaning oppose - At the moment, we're only seeing the proposed action, not the impact. Calling for a boycott is easy; making change with one is difficult. (Which is why people are still boycotting Nestle after 40 years - it's had minimal effect on policy.) I'm not against this in principle, but we'd need to see it actually achieve something. GenevieveDEon (talk) 06:53, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Government measures are being introduced all the time. Some of them didn’t pay off, so the boycotts call for different measures. This is well-covered in the article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support These are certainly notable and very unusual boycotts triggered by the elevated consumer prices and the high profit margins.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:55, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support This is affecting the economy of the Balkans in a significant way. Rager7 (talk) 08:49, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support: The article indicates that the boycotts have had an impact, with price caps being introduced. This is an interesting international popular movement. Ironic (talk) 11:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Weak support This doesn't seem all that notable to me, but it did have an impact on prices, so I guess. Personisinsterest (talk) 12:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose for now. Currently the article only discusses the direct impact of the boycotts in Croatia, not any other countries. Until we see how it impacts nations on a wider scale I don’t know if this is notable enough to post. I also feel like the article is a big vague in places about what exactly is being boycotted and thwart the impacts have been. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  The boycott in other countries just started on January 30… Let's wait for updates. ArionStar (talk) 15:31, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality. I think the article could use some fleshing out of it's constituent sections. One small concern I have is not every country's section makes mention of the chains being boycotted. I understand it's a very broad boycott, but mentioning specific chains would probably better inform readers on the exact scope of the boycotts. Just my two cents, not a massive concern. DarkSide830 (talk) 22:53, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think it's better now. ArionStar (talk) 00:31, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Why was this moved from Feb 1 to Feb 5? The only change from an event standpoint is the addition of Albania to this. This feels like gaming this nomination, particularly as there is really no initiating event that we can really point to as the start of all this. --Masem (t) 01:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• From January 31 to February 5, due to the adhesion of Albania. Romania and Kosovo are planning to join on February 10. Moving a proposed blurb is allowed, by the way… ArionStar (talk) 01:10, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• I have moved this back to Jan 31, as ArionStar's edit also deleted the history of other nominations from Jan 31. Natg 19 (talk) 01:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• How to do that? ArionStar (talk) 01:28, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

•  Done in the right way. Sorry for the mistake. ArionStar (talk) 01:30, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per Ironic and MtPenguinMonster. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 08:17, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support as a pretty significant response to rising prices, but I do have to point out that the article is in some need of tidying up. Yo.dazo (talk) 08:45, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Remove Slovenia from the blurb, even if there were calls for boycott, this is not getting media attention in the country and it is not getting much tracking. Croatia is another story, this is top news there. --Tone 13:37, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think the alt blurb is better and summarize all the countries involved. ArionStar (talk) 14:31, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb per ArionStar and Yo.dazo. Flip^andFlopped ツ 15:53, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support (either blurb, but the one the lists the countries is preferred) The article is now in good enough state, especially given that the event is ongoing. It covers all the basic facts, has sufficient context, and is actively updated with new developments. I also think this is a highlight of the enwiki's ability to cover well non-Anglophone news, and I think this is a remarkable direct consumer action, regardless of whether it ultimately succeeds or fails to move the retail prices. Melmann 16:23, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Support the alt blurb, this article seems good enough and this is a notable event. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 20:11, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality; the article struggles to distinguish between facts and rumours, and between one-day actions and indefinite ones; it also struggles to maintain NPOV. 217.180.228.171 (talk) 01:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Searching the news for "boycott", I find all sorts of other boycott stories – cricket, Tesla, Coca-Cola, etc. I have to go to the second page of hits to find this story. But it's not the only boycott in the Balkans as there's also a story that "Serb party ends boycott to fight Kosovo election". So, I'm not convinced this stands out in the news. And current readership of the article is tiny – less than 1,000 views per day – which also indicates that it's not prominent. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:35, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

  It makes front page news in Croatia in all local reliable sources, every time. Melmann 10:24, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support This is very big news in Europe and the article looks good. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

  Is 12/6 consensus? ArionStar (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Brian Turner

Article: Brian Turner (New Zealand poet) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio New Zealand
Credits:

• Nominated by Mr. Lechkar (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Mr. Lechkar (talk) 20:52, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose for now The bibliography is incomplete and there is a CN tag. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• That's a stub, and we don't post stubs. Schwede66 03:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sally J. Novetzke

Article: Sally J. Novetzke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Gazette (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)
Credits:

• Nominated by Wizzito (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: U.S. ambassador to Malta during George H.W. Bush administration. Sources are good, but could use expansion. wizzito | say hello! 15:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is a stub, and has almost no length to it. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:38, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  I will probably expand the article, unless someone else wishes to take up the plate to do so. wizzito | say hello! 03:27, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  Go ahead—WP:BEBOLD. Yo.dazo (talk) 08:49, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support - I think the article has been expanded enough now. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:38, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Agree with mike_gigs. Marking ready for RD. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:18, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted charlotte ^👸♥ 07:51, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Death of Mihir Ahammed

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Article: Death of Mihir Ahammed (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A 15-year-old school student in Kochi, Kerala committed suicide after being brutally ragged. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Teenager commits suicide in Kochi India after being subjected to brutally ragging
News source(s): Times of India NDTV Mathrubhumi Thenewsminute
Credits:

• Nominated by Spworld2 (talk · give credit)

 Spworld2 (talk) 13:05, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Not ITN/R and removed some of the non-neutral wording in the nomination title. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:35, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

   Question: what is ragging? I didn't understand the concept. By the way, the death occurred on January, 15. ArionStar (talk) 12:38, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  @ArionStar Its basically a form of bullying that occurs in Indian universities that is done by seniors to the juniors, where they are forced to do various things like dance shirtless etc. TNM101 (chat) 12:41, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  That's not allowed by Indian law, right? It's just that here in Brazil we make donations as part of the so-called solidarity student hazing. ArionStar (talk) 12:51, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Good-faith nom, but it seems stale. ArionStar (talk) 12:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose The triggering event (the death) is stale, since tht was reported on in the days from it happening. The only other thing of note are some small scale protests against the state police. This likely shouldn't even be an article since the person was non-notable to start, and that ragging seems to be a common problem in India and Sri Lanka that the coverage of one death from it that has yet to result in any change to laws or the like is far too soon. Masem (t) 13:02, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Just fed up of all bad things are common in India opposes where they aren't. Ragging is equivalent to bullying in nature, and I suppose is equal if not less common in India than US. Those leading to death are even rarer, and generally the well documented ones have a precedent to have a Wikipedia article. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 13:57, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Though agree with you on rest. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 14:05, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. The Kip ^(contribs) 13:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait and see: It has only recently(a day or so ago) got traction in mass media, and if it turns into anything bigger, an RD may?be posted. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 13:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Alternatively Oppose Article probably should be on the 'case' than death of xyz. In such case neither RD nor blurb would be suitable, at least as of now, per Masem. As well as based on quality, tagged it with cleanup required. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as stale. He would be ineligible for an RD as Ahammed did not have an article prior to his death (and thus was not notable) ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Its the nature and aftermath (no wp:crystalball though) of his death that is more notable than the kid himself. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 14:15, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  I agree, but when we post RD's it's because the target article (person) is notable (by way of having an existing article), not because their death is. Per WP:ITNRD: An individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article. Also the death (or announcement) must have been within the past 7 days, so in this case it would also be stale. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:42, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, you are right. I had opposed it for the same above, though I felt it would be noble to iterate that his case itself may not have notability issues. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 14:47, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Note: I have draftified the article because it seemed to be hastily written with contradictions, even for the date of suicide. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 14:32, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality and WP:CRYSTALBALL. Note: Item was closed by Roy Is Warii because the article was draftified. Though that should not have been done, I however have reopened this given the article is back. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 06:36, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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Impeachment of Sara Duterte

Article: Impeachment of Sara Duterte (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The House of Representatives of the Philippines votes to impeach vice president Sara Duterte (pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Vice president of the Philippines Sara Duterte is impeached by the House of Representatives.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: A major political event in the Philippines with continued consequences. ArionStar (talk) 12:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose for now, The Senate still have no vote for the impeachment trial, and it is ongoing as for today. We should wait for until senate concluded all votes if whether impeached or not because Sara Duterte still a vice president based on the report on GMA Integrated News on the news of 24 Oras by Sec. Gen. Reginald Velasco. ROY is WAR Talk! 12:22, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Soft oppose while this is really big news for Filipino politics, Sara is just the VP. ITN is for changes to heads of state/government, she is neither. Scuba 22:53, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Let me quote for this on what he said:

Once it's approved, it's transmitted to the Senate of the Philippines. — Sec. Gen. Reginald Velasco

Sir, that means [Sara Duterte] the Vice President is impeached? —GMA Integrated News

Yeah, yeah. Well, the word is impeached. But of course, she has to be tried by the Senate, no? — Sec. Gen. Reginald Velasco

Yes, sir. So even if she's impeached and not yet convicted by the Senate... — GMA Integrated News

She is still the sitting Vice President. — Sec. Gen. Reginald Velasco

— GMA Integrated News ROY is WAR Talk! 12:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Duterte has been impeached but is not yet convicted. Similarly, the impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol was posted although Yoon is still the sitting South Korean president, and his case is still pending in the Constitutional Court. 360kong (talk) 12:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, i see that. However, I think they need that votes on Senate of the Philippines since they are the only one need to be concluded. To be summarized, Senate will have a impeachment trial for that, but, Senate have adjourned until June 2. ROY is WAR Talk! 12:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. ITN had posted when Merceditas Gutierrez was impeached (which is what happened here), and when Renato Corona was convicted. ITN did not post the impeachment of Andres Bautista. Duterte is the highest official impeached when ITN is a thing. Wait until the Senate's final vote. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment FWIW we also did post the 2021 impeachment of Trump by the House (the Senate never voted on conviction). --Masem (t) 13:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think it will depends on the constitution, In the Philippines, if there's a impeachment although the Philippine Congress decision for impeachment, it is still required or need to be concluded of Senate of the Philippines of impeachment trial. ROY is WAR Talk! 13:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  I don't know the philippine law, but in the US, the house votes to declare impeachment but the senate votes whether to actually convict or not. This reads the same that one side of the legislature has votes to issue impeachment while the other sides votes to say if those stick and thus proceed with removal from office. — Masem (t) 14:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - Have we ever posted a vice president being impeached? Even if they were convicted? I believe all the comparisons being made are for presidents - I can't recall considering posting about the impeachment of vice president, though maybe I don't understand how important that role is in the government of the Philippines? ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  This is the first on the history of the Philippines that the Vice President of the Philippines was impeached, so it is passed on the ITN, however, the Senate of the Philippines are not starting of the impeachment trial. So, I suggest that we should wait until the Senate have conclude their votes. ROY is WAR Talk! 14:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  ITN posted the removal of the Philippine Chief Justice due to an impeachment in May 2012.

  ITN posted the impeachment of the Philippine ombudsman in 2011. The ombudsman resigned prior to the Senate impeachment trial. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  While not an impeachment, quo warranto petition against Maria Lourdes Sereno that led to the removal of the sitting chief justice, was also posted on May 2018.

  I'd imagine Joseph Estrada's impeachment in 2000 would have been posted. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:36, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait until the Philippine Senate cast their vote Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 14:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Nineteen Ninety-Four guy, the session of the Philippine Senate will be continue on June 2, so I think it will be cause of delay. ROY is WAR Talk! 15:05, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - is there a better photo? It looks like they are wearing a costume for a Christmas pageant or something. Nfitz (talk) 15:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Nfitz, it is a Filipiniana dress. Is a traditional gown for women in the Philippines, that is a formal attire for a president and vice president on a official portrait. ROY is WAR Talk! 16:15, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  That is her official portrait, and one of the most used image internationally as I know. ExclusiveEditor2 (talk) 16:17, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  It's the right image then. Nfitz (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as she’s not the highest-level executive. I wouldn’t support blurbing any other VP/Deputy PM/etc removals either. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait I don't mind posting this per se, given it's emblematic of the political crisis the Philippines are engulfed in, but agree with others that we should await the Senate vote and only post if she is indeed impeached. Khuft (talk) 19:39, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  She has been impeached, the act done by the lower house of Congress is indeed that, but the uppee house will have vote to remove her from office. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:29, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support per Khuft; while she is not the highest-ranking executive, this is pretty huge news because of the current political situation and power struggle that is happening in the country. That being said, I was initially leaning towards casting a vote to "wait" for the result of the impeachment trial; however, it is uncertain as to when that will happen. There is a possibility that the trial will only occur after the midterm elections, and a lot of things can happen between today and if/when that trial finally concludes: one of those possibilities is that she resigns somehow (although that is highly unlikely for now). And I also just want this to be clear: she is already impeached (only the lower house can do that), but she is not yet convicted by the impeachment court (which can only be done by the upper house/senate). Vida0007 (talk) 02:01, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  If she resigns it's a different story and a different blurb. The Senate may no longer proceed with the trial phase (just like what was done with Estrada). Howard the Duck (talk) 10:48, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support The impeachment is a done deal; even if she is later actually removed from office the appointment of a new VP then should arrest concerns of ITN duplication. Gotitbro (talk) 03:27, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• :Support I agree. 64.114 etc 03:31, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  Support I agree with you. 64.114 etc 04:01, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  @64.114 etc You've voted twice on this nomination, please struck your first vote. ROY is WAR Talk! 04:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  Fixed. 64.114 etc 05:17, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support per Gotitbro. This is the culmination of a longstanding political crisis in the Philippines and it has attracted international coverage. The impeachment trial may not be for several months. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 04:04, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support, impeachment is significant and newsworthy in its own right. It doesn't rely on other steps in the political process to be significant. CMD (talk) 05:29, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support It is true that the Senate would have to delay proceedings because of the upcoming midterm elections, but in my view that only escalates the stakes there—all of a sudden, it also became a question of whether X would vote to impeach the vice president or not. That alone would be interesting and relevant for months to come, which easily puts it on ITN. Yo.dazo (talk) 08:42, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment. Added alt blurb, similar to the blurb format regarding Trump's second impeachment. Moraljaya67 (talk) 13:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  Excellent alt! ArionStar (talk) 16:45, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose/Wait. I don't think we should post impeachments when they need to be verified by another body for said person to be removed from power. It's an intermediate step in the process. We can/should post if Duarte is removed from office. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:53, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support on principle My initial thought is that we should never bother posting the impeachment of a government official that isn't the head of government/state, however after reading the article it's clear that this is no ordinary impeachment, and that this is really a unique crisis impacting the government of the Philippines. Without prejudice to future impeachments of vice presidents, I support. NorthernFalcon (talk) 18:59, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support this is seeing plenty of coverage, including follow-up and analysis articles. Banedon (talk) 05:18, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until the Senate makes a decision. I oppose posting the beginning of the trial or if the Senate decides in her favor, although I support posting it if she is successfully impeached. --SpectralIon 19:18, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  She is already impeached. You may be referring to the conviction which may lead to removal from office. Howard the Duck (talk) 02:01, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, I was referring to the senate conviction, sorry for the wording error. SpectralIon 04:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Simona Halep retirement

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Article: Simona Halep (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Romanian tennis player Simona Halep announces her retirement. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Romanian sportswoman Simona Halep retires from tennis.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Romanian former No. 1 tennis player Simona Halep announces her retirement from the sport.
News source(s): (Bein Sports)
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: figurative sportswoman female QalasQalas (talk) 06:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. We don't post retirement of a certain player. Moraljaya67 (talk) 07:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think as a prominent female figure she deserves some work QalasQalas (talk) 09:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Moraljaya67 Btw they posted Federer and Nadal retirement, make sense. QalasQalas (talk) 09:32, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Can you provide a link to the ITN postings for Federer and Nadal? As far as I'm aware, sports retirements are not usually posted because athletes frequently un-retire (e.g. Tom Brady). Curbon7 (talk) 09:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  It never posted on ITN but I don't know if it was nominated. Moraljaya67 (talk) 10:08, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  IDK if the ITN criteria have been changed but I will find the archive link. QalasQalas (talk) 10:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  have a search for ITN posting with "retire": [1]. Looks like we posted Sachin Tendulkar retiring in 2013, and nothing since 2017 comes up (and some of these are false positive results). I would also have opposed Nadal or Federer being posted, as well as literally any other sportsperson announcing retirement- because retirements can be temporary. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Moraljaya67. I'm also not sure what 'figurative sportswoman female' is supposed to tell us about this nomination. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  If you follow tennis you must know Halep.

  only I can compare tennis men like Federer or Nadal. QalasQalas (talk) 09:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Halep didn't even win all grand slams. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:39, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Added altblurb2. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 10:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose we don't generally post retirements of sportspeople to ITN, as they don't generally meet WP:ITNSIGNIF and can always be temporary. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:53, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. ITN has consistently declined to post sporting retirements, even for players who were widely considered the greatest ever in their sports. Halep doesn't even reach that level. We post the outcomes of major sporting tournaments, not individual careers. Modest Genius ^talk 12:30, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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(Posted Blurb) Blurb/RD: Aga Khan IV

Article: Aga Khan IV (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  The 49th imam of Nizari Isma'ilism, Aga Khan IV (pictured), dies at the age of 88, with his son becoming Aga Khan V. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 49th imam of Nizari Isma'ilism, Aga Khan IV (pictured), dies at the age of 88 and is succeeded by his son, Aga Khan V.
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by SpectralIon (talk · give credit), Flipandflopped (talk · give credit) and Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Mooonswimmer 22:31, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support: His death event is notable. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 22:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Ivebeenhacked please note that ITNRD nominations are to be graded on quality, not notability, as all ITNRD are assumed to be notable enough to be posted. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 00:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Speedy support for sure. RIP. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 23:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready. Certainly notable (not that that matters), but the article has lots of CN tags and could use a good copy edit. Moscow Mule (talk) 00:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb, defining figure of Ismailism and a major political figure beyond that. Not ready as many citations are missing. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait on quality, Support Blurb Religious leader, wealthy businessman, major and occasionally scandalous political figure, and an extreme lack of citations. --SpectralIon 01:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Lean oppose blurb as I generally oppose RDBs except for serving political leaders, but I can see the argument that he qualifies under that umbrella This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb once improved. Leader of the second largest branch of Shia Islam with millions of adherents, with some estimates going up to 20 million. We blurbed the death of the Coptic patriarch (Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/March_2012#March_18), the head of a religion which has a roughly similar amount of worshipers. Quality is obviously not there though. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 04:27, 5 February 2025 (UTC) Article now sufficiently improved. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:53, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  15 millions, or even 20 milions is not much compared to other confessions. BilboBeggins (talk) 10:38, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Our criteria for death blurbs have changed massively since 2012, when we didn't have the RD section. If that's the only example you can find, I don't think it sets a precedent. Modest Genius ^talk 13:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  There was also Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, a leading Twelver Shia Islam cleric in 2010 [2], Indian guru Sathya Sai Baba in 2011 [3], and Ethiopian Church head Abune Paulos was nominated in 2012 but had obvious quality issues. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 04:30, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb in principle once the article is ready, per Patar knight and Chaotic Enby. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose blurb, not that well known or transformative figure. BilboBeggins (talk) 10:36, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Not ready Support 17 cn. solved Grimes2 (talk) 12:19, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• comment - anyone want to propose a blurb/altblurb ? EdwardLane (talk) 12:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - I'm amazed that anyone seriously suggested one. Not ready for RD because there are substantial sourcing issues in the article. The quality isn't far off, but there are still too many cn tags and unsourced statements. Modest Genius ^talk 12:35, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  To clarify, he was mostly known as a rich socialite and racehorse owner, who happened to have also inherited a ceremonial position in a religious sect. His religious activities seem to have mostly been limited to goodwill visits. Modest Genius ^talk 18:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Support RD, article quality is now fine. I still oppose a blurb. Modest Genius ^talk 13:12, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality (and if/when quality gets there I oppose a blurb) ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:22, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality. Once improved, I'd support blurb. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:51, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb - well known and transformative figure. It's certainly on top of the front page of the big newspapers here. I'm a bit surprised that anyone would suggest we not blurb such a major religious leader. Nfitz (talk) 15:54, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• If there is going to be a blurb then Nizari Ismaili should be a single wikilink to Nizari Isma'ilism. He wasnt the head of the entire branch of Ismaili Shia Islam, and the chainlink makes it appear as though he was. nableezy - 16:07, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose until the article is improved, then I support a RD but oppose a blurb. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 17:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb as it is not very clear (via sourced discussion) of the legacy or impact he had, but that might be possible to add. Oppose RD due to numerous tags. Also question the need of the "The imam in Nizari Ismailism" section, that's nothing to do with the bio. Masem (t) 17:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Masem, IMHO, even if religious leaders (such as not only an Aga Khan, but also for example a Pope, Orthodox Patriarch, or a Dalai Lama) may not have been particularly objectively impactful or memorable, the nature of religion is such that the death of the leader of a faith will nonetheless have a global impact on millions of people who are in deep mourning. This impact is the primary source of notability, as opposed to any individual item on a legacy list - even though the Aga Khan IV has a few of those too. Flip^andFlopped ツ 19:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Simply being a religious leader of millions doesn't show any legacy or impact, particularly if they just simply filled that roll and did little beyond that. Same would be true for a world leader of a large nation. Take the recent blurb of Jimmy Carter, where the reason the blurb passed was not for what he did as President, but what he did for humanitarian aid outside his term. Show that there is documented legacy that was more that just filling the leadership roll, and a blurb might be reasonable. — Masem (t) 19:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Millions of people did not subscribe to a faith system where they felt a strong spiritual connection to Jimmy Carter as the spiritual embodiment and successor of their God. There is an important and inherent difference there: you can reasonably debate the impacts of a politician, but when a cherished religious leader dies, to say "So what? I, Masem, see nothing special about him", completely misses the point. It is not the average Wikipedian who is mourning, it is millions of Ismaili Muslims under their faith system, and that's the whole point of the blurb. Flip^andFlopped ツ 19:17, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  If by his leadership he brought millions of new followers to their faith, and that can be evidenced and documented, that may help. But taking leadership of what already had millions of followers and lacking any growth is just someone doing their role in the faith, and doesn't make them a major figure. — Masem (t) 19:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Take the recent blurb of Jimmy Carter, where the reason the blurb passed was not for what he did as President, but what he did for humanitarian aid outside his term. I don't think many made that argument for the blurb discussion of Jimmy Carter. Most took his blurbing as a foregone conclusion, as the death of a US president is inherently notable, and reported by news sources around the world. They may have wanted to add his other work in the blurb, but his humanitarian aid was not what necessarily made him notable. Natg 19 (talk) 20:57, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb on notability. I am honestly quite surprised at the oppose votes. First, he is the figurehead and spiritual leader of millions of Ismaili Muslims. Just at a basic level, that significant global impact his death is having on those millions of people is enough to merit a blurb. But on top of that, the Aga Khan was a uniquely notable religious leader - unusually, he was both a religious leader and a billionaire who had impacts on everything from Canadian political scandals to competitive horse racing to a de facto power struggle with the Tajik government over control of an entire subset of the country. To me, this is speedy blurb material. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:54, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Weak support blurb per arguments above, but oppose on quality due to unresolved orange tag. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. Not a transformative world leader of the Mandela/Thatcher mould.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:53, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  The blurb would be justified on the basis of his being the spiritual leader of one of the main branches of Islam. Religious leaders at that level are typically blurbed if the article quality is adequate. Unfortunately, as of this comment it is not. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:54, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb on principle, oppose on quality Based on the current blurb standard, the Aga Khan meets that standard, having been the spiritual leader of well over ten million Muslims for over 60 years, a significant length of time. Other countries appeared to treat the Aga Khan almost like a foreign head of state, per the article. However, the article quality is not good enough and it doesn't look like it's going to be good enough in time for an RD, never mind a blurb. NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Updated blurb to mention the new Aga Khan V. --SpectralIon 04:28, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment 11-12 total support votes and 7 total oppose votes on notability (including weak/leaners). Widespread quality concerns among all. I will try to take a stab at improving the CN and orange tags later tonight, but it would be helpful to a consensus decision on notability if those who were on the fence or weak in their stance could reassess once improvements are made. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:33, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  I've taken care of most of the outstanding CN tags. 3 remain. Mooonswimmer 20:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

All remaining CN tags have been dealt with. Pinging users who explicitly opposed on quality and asking that you reassess your oppose on quality + clarify your vote on blurb notability if applicable: Moscow Mule, Chaotic Enby, Patar knight, Grimes2, SpectralIon, Mike gigs, TDKR Chicago 101, Chorchapu, Masem, The Kip, NorthernFalcon. Flip^andFlopped ツ 01:52, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

I’m fine with the quality now, and I maintain my support on notability. SpectralIon 02:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Quality looks fine for me too. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:14, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

I now support the RD and support a blurb, as he seems very important in Nizari Isma'ilism. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 02:29, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Important is underselling, since he is literally the head of Nizari Ismailism. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:41, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Much improved, well done, everyone. Good to go. No opinion about RD vs. blurb. Moscow Mule (talk) 02:30, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

I agree the quality is now sufficient to support RD. I still oppose a blurb. Modest Genius ^talk 13:12, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb since he was a religious leader of an Islamic sect w/tens of millions of followers. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 02:08, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb as a significant figure in Shi'a Islam. Comment on phrasing, however: since this is pretty much two news items at once (Aga Khan IV's death and Aga Khan V's succession) shouldn't their links be both bolded? Yo.dazo (talk) 09:45, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  I'll update it to bold both. SpectralIon 18:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb Leader of a major religious group. ArionStar (talk) 11:57, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb political, cultural, and economic importance magnified his standing in excess of the relatively small population of his followers. --Varavour (talk) 14:35, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

  Small but important, IMHO. ArionStar (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Comment. It looks like he is more famous for being billionaire and philantropist, and also stepson of Rita Hayworth, than for being religious leader, doesn't it? BilboBeggins (talk) 22:29, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

The development network he set up definitely gives him outsized influence compared to the size of the community, but the philanthropy is probably only possible through the tithing system. As for being the stepson of Rita Hayworth, there were reasons why his father was passed over in the imamate succession. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 23:12, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted (well, about to) – I see consensus to post a blurb. I'm just waiting for image protection to kick in and will then post this to the main page. Schwede66 03:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Risbergska school shooting

Article: 2025 Risbergska school shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Five people are shot and injured during a mass shooting at a school in Örebro, Sweden, while the perpetrator is found dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least eleven people are killed in a mass shooting at an adult education centre in Örebro, Sweden.
News source(s): CNNBBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Koltinn (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kålrabbis (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Highly unusual that it was a firearm rather than a knife, is on the news here. Koltinn (talk) 14:51, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait -- no information on fatalities yet. While I know shootings are rare in Sweden, I don't think we should be posting shootings that don't result in any deaths. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 15:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Let the article breathe first. Second such news from Sweden this week, tragic. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 15:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  This is not a "second" shooting this week, we've had some bomb attacks lately, but none in schools since the bombs are tied to organized crime. The last time we had a shooting in a school was in 1961. Cart (talk) 15:56, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  By second such news, I mean second such tragic news where gun was used. Previous one was killing of Salwan Momika. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 16:20, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, shootings outside schools are unfortunately more common these days. I was thinking of attacks involving school- and building-related things . Cart (talk) 16:30, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait There is very little information yet and no fatalities have been reported (the blurb is wrong at the moment). This is still classified as an ongoing operation and the police are not releasing any info. Once we know more, this could be ITN-worthy since this is highly unusual here in Sweden. Previous school attacks have been made with cutting weapons, and while shootings have increased in Sweden they have not taken place inside schools. Cart (talk) 15:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait So far only 6 injured have been confirmed (of whom 4 have gunshot injuries). Swedish media is reporting possible deaths and up to 15 injured but so far there's no confirmation. Johndavies837 (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support Police have confirmed about 10 dead so far. This appears to be the deadliest mass shooting in Swedish history. Johndavies837 (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait - there doesn't seem to be any children or even teenagers involved; that may change the equation. Nfitz (talk) 17:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

This is a school for adults, Komvux. But the police has just confirmed there are "some 10" dead including the shooter plus the injured persons. They are busy with identifying, but will likely not release any more info until tomorrow. Cart (talk) 17:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Oops, I missed your ping. Yes, time for waiting is gone. Blurb is okay. Maybe update if there's the inevitable tightening of gun rules that invariably quickly follows this kind of event. Nfitz (talk) 20:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint, there won't be any such debate. Unlike the US we already have extremely strict gun laws, there are tons of rules and regulations before you can even think of owning a gun in Sweden. The problem is all the illegal and smuggled weapons. Cart (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support this is now possibly the biggest shooting/attack in Sweden ever (cf. 2017 Stockholm truck attack with 5 dead). Cart (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support now that we have the confirmation of ~10 fatalities. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 17:31, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support, Swedish police have said there were around 10 fatalities, definitely notable in a country where such violence is relatively rare. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 17:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support - significant mass shooting, 10 deaths. Rare in Sweden. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support - 10 deaths is very rare for a shooting in Sweden. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support decent and notable enough. ArionStar (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Unusual event in a country/region that very rarely suffers mass shootings. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:03, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Unusual event in Sweden. High number of deaths. Well cited.BabbaQ (talk) 18:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

•  Comment: I wouldn't use "at least ten" in the blurb. The Swedish expression "ett tiotal", that the police is using, means 'around ten' so it can be nine too. Cart (talk) 18:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  I agree, it should be reworded to "Around ten..." User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 18:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Article looks good enough now, and this sort of thing is rare in Sweden. Definitely prefer the use of "adult education center" over "school" in the blurb as school shooting generally has the connotation that children were involved ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per others, and link "an adult education centre" to Campus Risbergska. - Sebbog13 (talk) 18:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per others. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted -- KTC (talk) 18:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support. Was gonna nominate this myself earlier, got beat to it I suppose. TwistedAxe [contact] 20:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

February 3

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RD: Paul Plishka

Article: Paul Plishka (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): operawire
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Legendary operatic bass who performed at the Met (Metropolitan Opera in New York City) from 1967 to 2018, #10 of their singers by number of performances, and he also performed at major locations and festivals in Europe, the U.S. and Chile. The article had not a single link to an opera, - tough. Also few references. - It's still missing links to colleagues and conductors, and references for some recordings. If we don't find them, we could live without those recordings. There's an obit in the New York Times that I can't access, - anybody who can read it, please help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Prime minister of Belgium

Article: Bart De Wever (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bart De Wever (pictured) becomes prime minister of Belgium following the 2024 Belgian federal election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 239 days after the 2024 Belgian federal election, Bart De Wever becomes the prime minister of Belgium.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Bart De Wever (pictured) becomes prime minister of Belgium following the 2024 Belgian federal election.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 13:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak oppose on quality. Bolded article is orange tagged. Once that is resolved, support. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 13:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Also you should probably change the article to Bart De Wever. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 13:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment I believe this is ITNR. The election from last June (which was nominated but dist post due to quality) establish which party had control, and only now have they selected their PM. Masem (t) 15:29, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait then Support per Jalapeno. --SpectralIon 18:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready on article quality. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Propose altblurb2 and Support. I don't think we need to bold the government formation article, which is really tedious to read, and not something we usually highlight. Let's highlight Bart de Wever instead, just as we highlight Rosario Murillo on the current ITN. Khuft (talk) 21:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Sal Maida

Article: Sal Maida (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by RonaldH (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death reported 3 February. Thriley (talk) 06:20, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is far too stubby to be considered for ITNRD recognition. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Added further details and sources. --RonaldH (talk) 01:04, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• The given source does not verify the date of birth stated in the article. Schwede66 02:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

  I fixed the issue. Thriley (talk) 02:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support charlotte ^👸♥ 07:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rich Dauer

Article: Rich Dauer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Good sourcing and well enough length of article. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support This article meets all requirements for RD. Grimes2 (talk) 11:29, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - looks good ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:53, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Looks well cited.BabbaQ (talk) 18:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Lim Tze Peng

Article: Lim Tze Peng (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Straits Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Robertsky (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Receipient of the Cultural Medallion of Singapore, the highest national award given to art practitioners in Singapore. – robertsky (talk) 13:42, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Orange tag for promotional content, unsourced paragraphs and "Major exhibitions" and "Awards" sections. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Barbie Hsu

Article: Barbie Hsu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Taiwanese actress Barbie Hsu (pictured) dies at the age of 48 from pneumonia. (Post)
News source(s): BBC South China Morning Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Wildfireupdateman (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Justanothersgwikieditor (talk · give credit), Robertsky (talk · give credit) and Starship.paint (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Note that I have quality concerns and strongly oppose a blurb. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I also nominated separately at about the same time. Combining here, with my nomination statement: A household name among the various Chinese speaking populations in many countries as the variety shows that she had hosted are exported to the various countries. IIRC, nothing ground breaking from her works that may warrant a blurb. News of her death just released (3 Feb). At nomination time, the article is in a bad shape, i.e. dated biographical layout; lack of references in the Works section; prose is not as expanded as it can be; lots of dating news. Will be working on this later in the night. – robertsky (talk) 04:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for sniping the RD nomination :). I'm from a Chinese family so can confirm the "household name" part. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Agree with household name part, and the certainly unexpected death at the age of 48 warrants a blurb in my opinion, if the quality can be fixed. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:09, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Reuters: Barbie Hsu, who rose to fame across East Asia

Agence France-Presse: Barbie Hsu, who was hugely popular across Asia

BBC: One of the biggest stars in the Mandarin-speaking world, Hsu became a familiar face even in the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand after Meteor Garden was dubbed in local languages.starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Updated. – robertsky (talk) 12:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Death from pneumonia at 48 is not unusual (4 million die from it each year), and being a household name is not a reason to post a blurb. No other indication of any impact or legacy on the industry. Support RD, I see only one missing source in the filmography table. Masem (t) 12:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
  • I've added a source for that. starship.paint (talk / cont) 12:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

    @Masem: According to @Starship.paint's statement, the blurb could be posted as she was hugely popular around Asia. By the way, I respect the result for this blurb. Sinsyuan✍️🌏🚀 13:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

    We absolutely should not be posting only because they were popular, that in no way shows them as a major figure in their respective field (this being SE Asian film and television). If there were other aspects of their legacy that came out from that popularity, maybe, but we have had problems with blurbs around "popular" stars in the past like Betty White and Carrie Fisher. — Masem (t) 13:12, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I'm not in favour of a blurb BUT death from pneumonia at 48 IS unusual. I would even add that death from pneumonia at ANY age is unusual for someone in TAIWAN. Most if not all of the 4 million deaths are from much poorer countries not one of the richest Varoon2542 (talk) 03:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. There are hundreds of very popular actors and actresses locally, regionally and globally, and while each obviously has their merits, notoriety, and therefore ITN-worthiness, must be linked to the legacy and industry impact of their career. And I don't see that this is the case. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Alsoriano97 but RD, yes? – robertsky (talk) 13:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, article's quality looks good. Support RD _-_Alsor (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, leaning oppose blurb I'd actually warn people to not underestimate how well-known Meteor Garden is, but even when taking that into account I still feel like blurbing this would be akin to posting a blurb for Robbie Rotten's actor when he died. Yo.dazo (talk) 14:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD but oppose blurb, per others ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per all above. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  "Another Gloria Moreno"? ArionStar (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I didn’t make that comment - not sure why you’re responding to me. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Just a question. ArionStar (talk) 23:39, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  And what was the point of that question, exactly? The Kip ^(contribs) 00:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  That this one was nominated as a blurb in the same idea that the Glória blurb was too? ArionStar (talk) 01:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Hmm... This was initially nominated as a RD, with both noms (me included, since we both had an edit conflict at about the same time) explicitly stating no to having a blurb. Another editor later tested the idea of having a blurb, which clearly everyone else opposed, which isn't a big deal. Totally different from Gloria Moreno's entry. – robertsky (talk) 05:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  To which I also opposed. @ArionStar, quite honestly I'm insulted at your implication here. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  It was a question not an implication, even an insult. I'm not an ITN expert, you are (I guess), that's why my question directed to you… ArionStar (talk) 22:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb as general policy against RDB This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb 5494 characters (923 words) "readable prose size", sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 18:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, Oppose Blurb per above. --SpectralIon 19:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Question Why exactly was this tagged "Needs Admin Attention"? Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:29, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Because an admin can post RD… starship.paint (talk / cont) 22:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Starship.paint Right...so then it should be tagged 'Ready' per procedure. 'Needs Admin Attention' implies necessary action, either because there's a dispute gone wrong, or because there's only so long until the nomination is unlisted. We can calm down, ITN is not a news ticker. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:05, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Fakescientist8000: - I was involved in updating the article, it wouldn’t be right for me to judge whether the article is ready. It would be like approving myself. starship.paint (talk / cont) 00:26, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb. Celebrities regardless of nationality go to RD. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:48, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Article is orange tagged for a too short lead. Stephen 00:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Tag removed, BUT I still think the lead is a bit short. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 01:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 02:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Dismantling of United States Agency for International Development

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Article: United States Agency for International Development (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Agency for International Development is dismantled by the Department of Government Efficiency. (Post)
News source(s): [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
Credits:

• Nominated by Eyesinthefire (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Wide news coverage, large impact on US foreign policy. Eyesinthefire (talk) 22:25, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work Orange-tagged. And the process is a work-in-progress. As I understand it, the plan is to merge USAID into the State Department which is not exactly dismantling. But there's a legal challenge so it's not a done deal. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:39, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  re: "the plan is to merge USAID into the State Department which is not exactly dismantling." - I have not yet found a source that is convincing me there is a plan to continue the work of USAID under the State Department. The linked AP source claims "In the space of a few weeks, in fact, much of the agency was dismantled — work and spending ordered stopped, leadership and staff gutted by furloughs, firings and disciplinary leaves, and the website taken offline. Lawmakers said the agency’s computer servers were carted away."

  I totally agree that United States Agency for International Development needs work to bring it up to date with developments over the past few days but think the blurb and inclusion in ITN is still sound. Eyesinthefire (talk) 22:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  USAID, the United States Agency for International Development, will be merged into the State Department with significant cuts in the workforce, but it will remain a humanitarian aid entity, three U.S. officials told CBS News.

  www.cbsnews.com/news/usaid-merged-into-state-department/ — hako9 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  https://www.npr.org/2025/02/04/nx-s1-5287053/usaid-trump-overseas-withdrawal

  The boots on the ground work is being immediately stopped - if that's not "dismantling" I'm not sure what is. Eyesinthefire (talk) 02:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

  Reading around the topic, it seems that such restructuring is not especially unusual. Previous Presidents have had a go at this – see Foreign Policy Agency Reorganization in the 105th Congress, for example. In the UK, I find that the Department for International Development was merged into the Foreign Office in 2020 and something similar has happened before. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose endorse AD's reason. — hako9 (talk) 22:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose we wouldn't post any other country's internal governmental reorganisation. Stephen 23:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  I should hope we would if it was a reorganization that dismantled an org contributing 10s of billions of dollars to international humanitarian aid. Eyesinthefire (talk) 02:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose There is a huge list of things happening within the US govt that most are calling a constitutional crisis, focusing on one action is very much inappropriate for ITN. Nor would I suggest anything ongoing until we start seeing either violence protests or other actions (eg something along the lines of what could have been a trade war between the US, Canada, and Mexico). --Masem (t) 02:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as per Masem. Not everything Trump does is ITN worthy. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:25, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nom. There may come a point where what is going on in Trump world will warrant notice at ITN. But I don't think we are there yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ad Orientem (talk • contribs) 19:14, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose a local departmental reorganization and consolidation is not ITN. Nfitz (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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RD: Victor Menezes

Article: Victor Menezes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10] [11]
Credits:

• Nominated by Srf123 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Rejoy2003 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Srf123 (talk) 15:02, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Three times "citation needed" is a problem. Schwede66 02:00, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2025 Sheffield school stabbing

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Article: 2025 Sheffield school stabbing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A boy is stabbed to death in All Saints Catholic High School, Sheffield, England. (Post)
News source(s): [12] [13]
Credits:

• Nominated by TheSwagger13 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Oppose Very local news and, whilst tragic, hardly unusual. I have removed the image from this nomination as it was non-free. Black Kite (talk) 08:38, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - this seems almost trivial. Why is there no nomination comment, User:TheSwagger13? Nfitz (talk) 15:30, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

  Nominate and Support - I didn't know how to make one at first -- but the reason I have uploaded this is because multiple news reports have documented this. TheSwagger13 (talk) 16:00, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Tragic for those affected but ITN cannot blurb every murder around the world. This is minor news even in the UK press. I'm not convinced this is even notable enough to have an article, per WP:NCRIME and WP:EVENTCRIT. Modest Genius ^talk 16:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - Unfortunately, knife attacks are frequent news in the United Kingdom, and tragic ≠ automatic ITN qualification. Nothing extraordinary like mass protests or civil unrest has come with this, and it is not one of the worst incidents of this nature in the country. I echo the concern that the event linked here doesn't qualify for an article either. --Billclinton1996 (talk) 20:26, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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February 2

Portal:Current events/2025 February 2

February 2, 2025 (2025-02-02) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks War against the Islamic State War in Somalia American military intervention in Somalia, Islamic State insurgency in Puntland The Puntland military spokesperson claims that U.S. airstrikes against ISIL have killed 46 fighters in the Cal Miskaad Mountains, a remote area in northeastern region Bari, Somalia. (Hiiraan Online) Arts and culture 67th Annual Grammy Awards The 67th Grammy Awards are held, with Kendrick Lamar's diss track "Not Like Us" winning all five of the awards it was nominated for, including both Song of the Year and Record of the Year. Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter album wins Album of the Year, while Chappell Roan wins Best New Artist. (Los Angeles Times) (USA Today) (The Hollywood Reporter) Disasters and accidents 2025 Queensland floods Two people are killed and thousands are forced to evacuate their homes in over 1,000 millimetres (39 in) of flooding in North Queensland, Australia. (BBC News) International relations Panama–United States relations U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio travels to Panama in his first foreign trip in the position and urges Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino to reduce Chinese influence in the Panama Canal. In response, Mulino said that his country won't renew its contracts with China's Belt and Road Initiative when they expire. (Latin Times) Saudi Arabia–Syria relations Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa visits Saudi Arabia for his first trip since being named president to meet with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. (Al Jazeera) South Africa–Taiwan relations South Africa orders Taiwan to relocate its liaison office from Pretoria by the end of March, citing diplomatic policies favoring China. (Reuters) Politics and elections Protests against Donald Trump 2025 United States protests against mass deportation Thousands of demonstrators protest against immigration policies implemented by U.S. President Donald Trump in downtown Los Angeles, California, blocking the Hollywood Freeway. (KCBS-TV)

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(Posted) RD: Helga de Alvear

Article: Helga de Alvear (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTVE
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Influential German-born gallerist who opened a great museum of modern art to share her collection with the public. Article was mostly there, references added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Needed some copyediting which I have assisted with; referenced and meets minimum standards for depth. Spencer^T•C 21:59, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 01:55, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Harry Stewart Jr.

Article: Harry Stewart Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: US Air Force Tuskegee airman Spencer^T•C 19:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support No major issues with article that I can note. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:24, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support, detailed and sourced --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
• Reference 11, which gives the source for his date of birth, doesn't work for me. And either way, it appears that this was a user-generated website. That won't do for referencing a DoB. Schwede66 01:49, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

  I've added a couple of new footnotes there, for news articles as REFs for his date and place of birth. Hope this helps. -- PFHLai (talk) 11:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted A great hero. Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:49, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Brian Murphy

Article: Brian Murphy (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English actor/comedian. Article is not ready yet for the usual reasons. Black Kite (talk) 12:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, until that lengthy filmography section is sourced: see also Marianne Faithfull. It is easier for a newly created stub-plus to go through the eye of a needle than for an article created 20 years ago to enter into the kingdom of RD. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Verily. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:51, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Marion Wiesel

Article: Marion Wiesel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:200B:391F:C5EB:E244 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 05:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Support - Article is well cited but it is just barely not a stub. I'm on the fence if it is long enough ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 16:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Article has been expanded. Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 18:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Adequate, and it developed nicely after nomination. Could use a paragraph of prose on her passing, is all. Moscow Mule (talk) 04:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - well cited and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 17:50, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:49, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Grammy Awards

Article: 67th Annual Grammy Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the Grammy Awards, Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us" wins Record of the Year, while Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter wins Album of the Year. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At the Grammy Awards, Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us" wins Song of the Year and Record of the Year, Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter wins Album of the Year, and Chappell Roan (pictured) wins Best New Artist.
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article is not close to being ready due to lack of prose about the ceremony itself (its all just tables). Masem (t) 05:05, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait The lead section is under development. ArionStar (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Better now. ArionStar (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Still far too little prose regarding the ceremony to post. — Masem (t) 12:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The article has a extensive content of the event. ArionStar (talk) 13:03, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  As often pointed out for award shows and sports championships, we are expected to have a significant amount of prose around the ceremony or game, not just lots of information in tables. — Masem (t) 13:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - article lacks prose about ceremony ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:43, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Significant music event and ITNR. Article is in good shape, added alt blurb that mentions Chappell Roan. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 17:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Support article looks better now for a famous event. 64.114 etc 17:25, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support alt in principle, oppose on quality for now - There's an overwhelming mass of tables, and virtually no prose about the ceremony. The reporting on this event has included coverage of participants' speeches, both from the podium and to the press separately; the range of outfits worn (or in one case not worn) on the red carpet, the quality of the presentation, and so on. This article has none of that, and it needs it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:40, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The alt is not good, as we only feature the record and album of the year per ITNR Masem (t) 18:06, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  If we only include ROTY and SOTY, why'd you mention SOTY (and other unnamed awards) in the initial blurb? ROTY, SOTY, AOTY and BNA are considered the major four awards of the Grammys; with consensus, I believe including all four would be okay, if not better. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:48, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Someone edited my original blurb. I known I only put Album and Record per ITNR. --Masem (t) 02:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support first blurb — I think only Record and Album of the year should be part of the blurb in the interest of conciseness, since SOTY has the same winner I don't have any problems with it being lumped in. I'm not convinced we need to also include Best New Artist, though. No comment on article quality. DecafPotato (talk) 22:11, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  They are general fields. ArionStar (talk) 00:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  very obviously a chappell fan lol Sheila1988 (talk) 09:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  I was particularly waiting for the RAYE's victory. ArionStar (talk) 23:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support, but I think the article needs some cleaning up. More ceremony information would be nice. And, agreeing with @DecafPotato, the blurb would be better without the SOTY and Best New Artist mentions. There should be a photo of Kendrick. AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 02:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and remove from ITNR. Theres way too much pop culture that isnt "news" featured here. nableezy - 04:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
  • It's called "In the News", not "News", as we feature a wide range of topics across all knowledge areas as long as they reported in the news and of quality. Not that the current article here is of quality, but the Grammys are considered the pinnacle of contemporary music recognition, and completely fair for areas that WP covers. --Masem (t) 04:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

    I’m well aware of what it’s called, and I’m well aware of your position on what this section of the main page should feature, and I disagree. It is a trade show, voted on by a some 13,000 people, and it is as interesting or engaging as the latest episode of Keeping up with the Kardashians or whatever their latest show is called. No serious encyclopedia would feature the yearly awards show of such a scale in such a way. Cover it sure, but blurbed on the main page? Pass. nableezy - 06:53, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support first blurb - well cited and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 11:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - there is still virtually no prose about the ceremony or winners. Almost all of the existing prose in the article was there prior to Sunday. Please stop marking this as ready until updates are made. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:03, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support altblurb I think mentioning the new artist award is the most "news" component about it (her being literally "new", in the name of the award, corresponding to "ITN"...). Neutral/weak support current article on the quality issue, as I disagree that needing a ton of prose beyond "who won what" is strictly necessary for the article to meet minimum standards. People can go the article for the artist or for the song/album if they want to learn more about it. Flip^andFlopped ツ 03:34, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Support put it in already Personisinsterest (talk) 01:38, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 04:07, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

2025 World Men's Handball Championship

Article: 2025 World Men's Handball Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In handball, Denmark defeat Croatia to win the World Men's Handball Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Olympics
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Moraljaya67 (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose I’d like to see more prose on the games themselves - it’s a lot of tables at the moment. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Handball is a fairly popular globally played sport and so its world championship should be included in the ITN section like most other widely played sports' championships do. Pluma (talk) 03:24, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance. Curbon7 (talk) 10:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Too many tables and not enough prose for ITN recognition. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose completely lacking in prose about the matches themselves. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:11, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support. As Pluma said, handball is fairly popular, and globally played. 64.114 etc 17:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Per Curbon7, since this is ITN/R, we are only discussing the quality of the article - which isn't that good - so I also oppose ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality, still lacking prose as of today. ITN/R means significance is already assumed to be there, which is expected for a world championship in a major sport. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready. The article starts promisingly, with prose on the bidding and qualification process, but when it comes to the actual tournament all we get are tables. There need to be multiple paragraphs of referenced prose describing what happened in the games. Modest Genius ^talk 16:29, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tony Martin

Article: Tony Martin (farmer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British farmer at the centre of self-defence with firearms case  The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Not Quite Ready There are a couple CN tags for fairly important claims of fact. They will need cites before this can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
  • @Ad Orientem: These have now been sorted and removed. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
    • Support Looks good to go. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
    • Support Looks ok. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

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